Cathode is for the older tweed sound, a dense, juicy kind of saturation. Fender tweed deluxe 5e3 schematic redrawn by steve luckey on may 20, 2006. Notice how convoluted the signal path thick grey lines is compared to the schematic. My first groundup amp build was a 5e7 circuit tweaked for el34s. The super evolved from the socalled dual professional, often cited as the worlds first twinspeaker amplifier, which was introduced in 1947. Here is our collection of tweed and brown face era fender guitar amp schematics. Aa270 schematic aa270 chassis layout super six reverb 100w master vol. Its my understanding that the 5f4 super is basically the same circuit as the. It has been replaced by the wattkins universal pcb which is essentially the same pcb but with many added features. Tweed deluxe amplifier fender 5e3 vintage diy pro audio. Some would consider this to be the definitive tweed era fender champ. These are invaluable reference tools if you are digging around inside of your vintage fender amplifier. Tweed 5f4 amp kit the original tweed 210 the circuit provides the perfect classic rock and crunch tone very similar to the tweed 5e7, but in a smaller more portable cabinet.
A selenium rectifier was used in the bias circuit for models 5e4a and 5f4. The tweed supers design gave it a more nasal sound than some of its larger relatives, which makes it popular among guitarists who. Its based on the 5f4 super but has a bigger power tranny so i can run kt77s, basically a beefy el34. Its a 50s fender circuit, basically the same as a tweed superbandmasterpro but built as a 1x12 rather than a 2x10, 3x10 or 1x15. The cabinet is big enough to fit an add on reverb circuit if desired. Inner circuits handwired 5f4 tweed super clone covered in cream levant with salt and pepper grillecloth rather than cloth. My first fender amp was a tweed 1958 superit had a. And of course the answer varies from amp to amp, and from individual to. The ceriatone 5f4 amplifier is based on the tweedcovered amplifier of the same designation.
I have a 5f4 super clone, and i would say the amp is more about loud than it is about saturation. We believe that this is the most complete, highest resolutio. The amps are practically identical except that the bandmaster uses three 10. Click the image to view the full size readable annotated layout. Some of the parts contained in this kit are subject to availability. This circuit is modeled after the 59 fender tweed deluxe 5e3 amplifier. The super, however, was the only one of these updated professional amps to retain its tube rectifier, giving it a unique sound more akin to the preceding tweed 5f4 design.
The tweed royal output section has a power amp that can switch between a single 6v6 tube, biased in class a, in a single end s. The tweed deluxe speed shop builds the finest fender tweed era guitar amplifiers utilizing only the highestquality new components as well as speed shop reverseengineered td58ot and tc58ot output transformers, a12q and a10q vintage alnico speaker recreations, nos new old stock resistors, capacitors, sockets, hardware and vintage nos tubes. Tweed small part kits also include the fiberboards. Same circuit as narrow panel amps 5e7 bandmaster, 5e5a pro and very similar to the 5e8a low power twin. The 1955 through 1960 narrow panel tweed deluxe is a very simple circuit to build and a great way to get acquainted with tube circuits. The 5e3 tone control is a lowpass filter and as designed reduces so large a portion of the midhigh audio spectrum that more than just a bit of counterclockwise rotation results in a significant loss of gain enough so that any overdrive is lost while everything other than the bass frequencies remain. I was actually about to start ordering parts for a 5f4 build when i saw this on the local clist. In dealing with tube amps, one of the questions that gets asked a lot is what is the belchfire quintessential amp like.
Page 10 continue to use the hole closest to the edge of the chassis, and mark where the new one needs to be drilled. Will it sound like a fendermarshallvox bassman jmp ac30. With two 6l6 power tubes and two speakers, along with heavier transformers, the tweed super is loud and punchy. Schematics and layout diagrams here are hundreds of original fender schematics and layout diagrams, available for free viewing and download. The fender 5f6a schematic shows 48v as the bias voltage for 5881 tubes which would yield a significantly cooler bias. Can be configured as classic 5f4 or 5e5a depending on the speaker choice if you would like this kit.
Even though it can lack headroom its hard to pass up. Tweed 5e3 pcb valve junior conversion build manual v3. Champamp, 5f1, champ, fender, schematic, tweed, vintage. New chassis builds are now available at here are a couple of quick room.
We have some more vintage fender amplifier schematics today. You could drill it now, or do it along with the rest of the drilling later. This 5f4 circuit has a unique break up that has been featured in recordings by the likes of joe bonamassa and the eagles. Mojotones tweed super style amp kit is based on the 2030 watt model rumored to be one of leo fenders favorite creations. Weve already featured the fender champ model 5c1 and the 5e1 schematics. The most visible difference between the 5e3 design and the preceding 5a3, 5b3, 5c3, and 5d3 versions is the fact that the.
This amplifier was made in the 50s, and was available as a 2x10 combo. Tweed era tone control circuit was first found in hifi amplifiers and later seen in ampeg svts. I like it a lot at low volumes, but played loud the bass f. Mercury magnetics transformers, hammond choke, nos jan 12ayx7s, nos rca blackplate 6l6gcs.
The weber 5f4 and 5e7 are replicas of closelyrelated fender tweed super and tweed bandmaster circuits. As for the 5d4, looking at the schematic, i would expect the amp to be not as. Ok, this is the next to last time i am posting this question. Unfortunately we cant offer any substitutions in this particular kit.
What is the best dumble kitclone, if you can only one. What is the best dumble kitclone, if you can only one welcome, guest. The fender super was a guitar amplifier made by fender between 1947 and 1963 and, as the super reverb, until 1981. Redblue wire from pt is a 50v bias tap, this wire is not connected in this amplifier. It has fixed bias, nonadjustable using a selenium rectifier. Fender deluxe 5e3 clone made by a local builder in australia fender super amp 5f4 clone, the fellow built it himself from a kit. But i agree, it is confusing, and on some webpages you will find just the opposite you will also find fender super amp which is the 5f4, and has 1 x 12ay7 and 2 x 12ax7. Ptp handwired fender tweed super 5f4 clone discussion in amparidifiers started by manticus, apr 7. The tweed supers design gave it a more nasal sound than some of its larger relatives, which makes it popular among guitarists who play gritty blues and rockabilly. Mojotone tweed super 5f4 style combo amp kit mojotone. The 5e3p tweed proluxe features a dual 6l6 tube pushpull output stage and. I did not find the schematics of the 5e4, but the tweed super is the 5e4a.
This 5e5a small parts kit includes all resistors, capacitors, pots, switches, knobs, jacks, sockets, wire and screws see picture. While fender didnt use this circuit verbatim, they did use similar ideas, but eventually went to the blackface era controls. Lil dawg amps 5f4 super superdawg the superdawg is based on the narrow panel 5f4 tweed super circuit and offers a little hotter circuit for those needing a bit more out of their amp. Most original 5f6a bassmans actually use a 100k tone slope resistor. Pretty much a straight clone of the 5e3 circuit, but if ordering a built amp, i believe nik is open to incorporating any requested mod. You could also play with the value of the capacitor, thus voicing the lead mode to taste. Fender tweed is a generic name used for the guitar amplifiers made by the american company fender between 1948 and 1960. And the 5f6a bassman is like a super thats a touch harder and quite a bit louder, and. Ga79rvt multipurpose stereo, pushpull 6bq5s each side.
The main change from the 5e1 circuit in 1956 was the removal of the filter choke. On the weber 2 x 5e3 schematic he already has a 1 meg grid leak resistor. The tweed super s design gave it a more nasal sound than some of its larger relatives, which makes it popular among guitarists who play gritty blues and rockabilly. Tweed deluxe amplifier fender 5e3 vintage diy pro audio diy. Inner circuits 5f4 narrow panel tweed super clone cream. The bassmans job is to take the tiny electrical signal from a guitar and build it up until its strong enough to move a speaker cone.
B 6 8 1 2 3 v2a r6 68k r5 68k r2 1m hi 1 lo 2 3 2 r4 1 68k r3 68k r1 1m hi 1 lo 2 v1b c v1 v2 v3 v4 4 4 2 2 9 9 7 7 5 5 r7 820 c1 25uf r8 100k r9 100k c2 0. Though it was designed for a clean sound, its overdriven sound is praised by players and critics history. The superdawg is based on the narrow panel 5f4 tweed super circuit and offers a little hotter circuit for those needing a bit more out of their amp. You can obtain the values from any similar tweedera schematic from ampeg, gibson, etc. Fender amp heaven schematics tweed blackface brownface. The prodawg is based on the narrow panel 5e5a tweed pro circuit and had been a solid mainstay in a lot of studios as well as stage work. By the end of 1960, the vibrato circuit was beefed up again resulting in the 6 preamp tube model 6g4 followed shortly after by the 6g4a. The spearkers were mounted off center in the lower left and upper right corners of the baffle. Its a 50s fender circuit, basically the same as a tweed super bandmasterpro but built as a 1x12 rather than a 2x10, 3x10 or 1x15.
Used in super lower plate voltage used in early tweed, brownface, 5f4. I was fortunate enough to play a couple of superb examples clones of the classic fender tweed amps. Currently there is no axe model that is equivalent. James sent the amp for a onceover by mike clark, a notable maker of. So be sure to wire your amps impedance to match the speaker that came with. However, this kit may be shipped with either a 4 or 8 ohm speaker based on stock levels. Great for all those whos next sounds and a lot more. Schematic bronco ab764 schematic ab764 chassis layout champ 5c1 schematic 5c1 chassis layout 5e1 schematic 5e1 chassis layout 5f1 schematic 5f1 chassis layout aa764 schematic aa764 chassis layout super champ schematic champ 12 schematic concert 6g12 schematic 6g12 chassis layout 6g12a schematic. And at 10 you get full tweed meaning the tone stack is almost completely eliminated from the amp circuit so you get a nice signal boost.
Tube amp schematics, tube amp information, tube amp projects. Construction of another modified tweed super will begin. Super 47 dual professional 5a4 5b4 layoutonly 5c4 5d4 5e4 5e4a 5f4 5g4 6g4 6g4a super 60 super reverb aa763 ab763 ab568 aa1069 aa270 cbs 45w mstrvol cbs 70w mstrvol super six reverb 100w 100w master vol. Apr 11, 2020 5e7 5f4 tweed bandmaster super have a completely different preamp circuit than the 5f6 or 5f6a bassman. This is a very simple removeandreplace mod that is very worthwile. The cabinet is hand built from tiger maple and finished in orange lacquer. The tweed fender deluxe went through several iterations during its lifetime. This build uses an elevated heater supply see schematic with a dc offset of about 45 volts for the filaments, to reduce ac hum. I was initially attracted to the idea of a 5f4 tweed super in 2x10, but ive recently begun to think about a 5e7 tweed bandmaster with its 3x10 configuration. Sound clips page tube amp sound clips and tunes of all types. Modifying or drilling this chassis will compromise the chrome finish. We cannot accept returns for a modified chrome chassis. A schematic shows electrical flow while a layout diagram shows the physical location of the amps components. Same size and style of a tweed narrow panel super 5f4 pro 5e5a please note.
Click the image to view the full size layout diagram. Design your own custom turret board or eyelet board. This build has separate outputs for 16, 8, and 4 ohms. Regarding the references to the 5f6a bassman, the 5f4 super is quite different from input to output. Great kit for beginners and pros alike, and a great platform for trying out modifications and alterations to this classic circuit. Full page fax print amazon simple storage service s3. A number 3 corresponds with deluxe amps, so a tweed deluxe made around 1950. Fender deluxe 5e3 tweed and a super 5f4 clone amps discussion in amp input normal or bright started by candyapple1964, sep 4, 2014. Its like a smaller tweed bassman but with a little more midrange. Aa964 princeton reverb with 2 amps in 1 cab no real equivalent.
Mojotone tweed super 5f4 style combo amp kit mojotone reverb. Well start the analysis of the 5e3 deluxe with my annotated versions of the original fender schematic and layout diagrams for a broad overview of the amps function then well dive deeper and examine individual components. Ceriatones custom built tribute to the fender pro 5f4 boutique guitar amp. The circuit can also work with the 5e7 bandmaster, the 5e6 bassman, the 5e5a pro, the 5e4a and 5f4 super, and the 5d8 twin amplifiers, just remember that the presence control doesnt work in the lead mode. The amplifiers are named for the cloth covering, which consists of varnished cotton twill, incorrectly called tweed because of its feel and appearance. Smaller v1 cathode bypass cap, completely different tone circuit, split load phase inverter, both the plates and the screens of the output tubes. And the 5f1 champ is a thing of beautiful simplicity with the meanest overdrive. Im sure there are other differences ive forgotten to list. Mods and eq voicing seem to be a very personal thing, from what ive seen people start with the stock and tweak. Schematic 5w ultralinear schematic super twin reverb schematic tremolux 5e9a schematic 5e9a chassis layout 6g9 schematic. Gave me a great place to start on my own amp ideas based around the 5e3, without breaking the bank. Some questions have come up that id like to have your input on.